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  • Plysa
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    Expat English Teachers Are Losers ?

    'm surfing the web and am coming  across articles saying esl teachers are losers. Apparently, we are looked down upon by the Chinese. Im not too shocked. I'm apart of an expat group on wechat and 2 weeks ago a member posted child porn. He was removed from the group and deported. I noticed others in the group seemed off...

     

     I have a 4 year degree and rarely drink or party and take my time job interview seriously. 

    Is there anything I can do to combat these stereotypes ?

    6 years agoin Teaching & Leaming-Cangzhou
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  • MichaelB
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    Ummmmmmm, hard to difine it as there are good teachers and bad teachers all the way
    6 years ago
  • Mukesh
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    No, why say so? Teachers will transmit the knowledge to next generations.
    6 years ago
  • Quigley
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    What's the "2 years experience" stipulation exactly?

    Do you need 2 years experience of teaching English, or just 2 years since your bachelors?

    This post (2016) by EF doesn't mention it at all.

    6 years ago
  • Habachi
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    It seems like the only qualification necessary to teach in China where round eyes, white skin and being a native speaker. Experience , academic qualifications were of no consequence.

    This of course is very frustrating and insulting for someone like the op and others who have worked hard to gain their degree and teaching certs.

    Its positive that the rules have change but so many still work illegally so it doesn't affect them.

    As for losers , it does sometimes seem that there are a lot of loser foreigners in China . Its s much higher representation than would be in their native countries. A lot of foreigners make me cringe here, with their behavior. The beijinger website attracts a lot of disrespectful idiots.

    6 years ago
  • Abbasi12
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    You won't be able to do much about the stereotypes (after all, you are only one woman). But most people are aware that not all English teachers are low-lifes, so it should not be difficult to quickly prove to anyone who meets you that you are one of the good ones. Take your job seriously, don't drink too much or prey on Chinese girls (or boys, I guess), work towards getting (more) qualifications), or to learn more about language teaching. Basically, act like a responsible, sane adult who has her act together and cares about doing her job well.

    During my time in China and Taiwan, I met some lowlife English teachers (and heard stories about more). There is a reason the stereotype exists. But I also have some good friends and acquaintances who were English teachers, did that well for some time and then moved on to other (sometimes related) good things. I think you will be fine. Make sure you keep getting enough sleep and don't worry in the evenings.

    6 years ago
  • Smith11
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    I don't think the stereotype is without reason. However, I assumed things would have improved since foreign teachers now need degrees and 2 years of work experience (although I know there are dodgy schools that will employ anyone).

    All I can say is that the colleagues I had when teaching "subjects" in a senior school were, let's say, much more respectable than those I had when teaching in a private English language school.

    6 years ago
  • Nicolas89
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    What kind of place do you work? I hate to say it, but if you're working in a private English school teaching children then you're probably going to come across some low-lifes. It doesn't mean everyone is like that, or that kind of work should be looked down on, but it's just the nature of that particular private enterprise.

    If you're serious about teaching English as a second language then I recommend getting a recognised qualification. I don't know much about that sort of thing, but a search for "CELTA" or "TESOL" should be a start. If you have a Master's degree in teaching English as a second language, you should be able to get a job working on some sort of pathway programme teaching EAP or something similar. That should put you in touch with a "higher calibre" of expat.

    6 years ago

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